Photo + PS filter = I’M AN ARTIST PAY ME!!
Ok. So those of you who follow me on twitter already know the whole thing, but basically I was referred to a Kickstarter by @IronSpike which is basically some lady (or a guy pretending to be some lady) who is “selling” her services of converting photos “to Oil”.
Now, anyone who knows ANYTHING about photoshop can tell immediately that all they’re doing is applying a filter to the photo. Looks to be watercolor, though a couple of them might be cut paper. Regardless, she’s turning around and selling these for $20 a pop, which amounts to about 30 seconds of work. I’m not kidding; I did this in just under 3 minutes, and that was including taking the photo itself.
I hate seeing people get ripped off. And I hate people pretending to be skilled artists when they’re not. Applying ONE filter to a photo takes zero skill and minimal photoshop knowledge; you just need to know where the “filters” menu is. And yes, there is the part where Kickstarters are supposed to be used to fund a large single project and this one seems to have none other than “Give me Work”.
So I sent a very blunt In-Kickstarter “question” to the guy running the campaign, as follows:
So…. basically you spend 30 seconds, apply a filter in Photoshop, and then try to sell people the results? Damn, man. That clearly must have taken a lot of time to develop such a skill.
And by that, I mean learning how to convince people you’re really an artist.
My question though is: How do you sleep at night knowing you’re deceiving people? How are you not wracked with guilt and self-loathing? Seriously. I’d really like to know. Because, like, I’ve actually spent the last decade practicing my professional cartooning skills (which is actual drawing by hand and NOT scanning photos and applying the “outline” filter), but if this whole “Pretend to be an Artist” thing actually works out to where you don’t feel like a complete sham and a failure, than maybe I’m doing this whole “Actually working to be an artist” thing all wrong.
I didn’t expect a reply for at least a day, if at all. But lo and behold, 5 minutes later, I get THIS gem:
Thanks Lis for your kind comments.. for one thing.. not everyone knows how to use a computer graphics program.. when I was working on cars.. the shop charged a $100 for what took me less then 15 minutes to do.. though they charge by the hour.. when I was a carpenter.. I charged $100 to hang a door that took 30 mins to do.. everyone charges more then the time it actually takes do something.. I am sure you do not take a loss at whatever it is you do…
second thing.. Roxy does not take 5 minutes to do her impressionistic oil pieces.. she does it in 4 sittings.. not a 5 second deal.. it might take her 2-3 hours to do the work though it is not at one time…
third.. it is only $20 to get the PNG file of the digitally created image that I make.. if a person knows how to make an oil replica of their image.. they don’t need me or anyone else to do it for them…
not sure if you just sit at your computer looking for people to criticize… you do seem like a busy body and from your remarks.. don’t have a clue how free enterprise works.. I hope you sleep well at night even though you attack people and their motives without really considering the real facts..
you might be an artist I have no knowledge of that and can not comment but as for being an obnoxious busy body.. i give you an award.. please refrain from sending any more of your vitriolic remarks my way.. Thanks.
OH MY GOD.
There’s too much here, I don’t know where to start.
Main thing is: these pieces do NOT take 2-3 hours in 4 sittings. Not unless she only makes one mouse click per sitting and she spends the rest of the time masturbating. I mean, my GOD, woman. You’re either the world’s biggest liar, or you have the worst case of ADD in human history.
Also, I loved the super patronizing bit at the start, with the “thank you for your kind words…” Yeah. Cute. I’m not a child, dude. Just say what you wanted to say. “fuck you!” that’s what you wanted to say, wasn’t it? Just be honest.
…Oh wait, you don’t know how. I’m sorry.
So yeah. Apparently because I called this guy and lady out on their scam (which, clearly something’s fishy, if he goes from saying she’s the artist to “it is only $20 to get the PNG file of the digitally created image that I make”), I’m an “obnoxious busy-body”. Trying to keep people accountable and honest is being a busy-body, everyone! Just let this guy cheat old ladies out of their money because they don’t know anything about how computers work! Because if you say anything, you’re OBNOXIOUS.
I sent this in response, and then reported ‘em to Kickstarter:
2 minutes in Photoshop, watercolor filter. S’all I’m saying. http://twitpic.com/9tyuq2 Perhaps Roxy is lying to you about the effort? Because I assure you, anyone who knows the process that goes into creating artwork will be able to tell that there is no way these take 2-3 hours to complete. Unless 2 hours and 55 minutes of that is spent deciding which filter to use. It also takes no skill to select a filter from a drop down menu and hit “OK”; this is where your carpentry or car work analogies fall apart.
Maybe Roxy can fool people who know nothing about Photoshop, or computers in general. However, the images she is making (or are you making them? You switched in your response… is there even a Roxy? Or are you simply confused?) will not fool anyone who does.
After I send this message to you, it will be my last, as I have nothing more to say to you. I do have a bit to say to Kickstarter however, but it’s more of a quick “hey, you should really take a second look at this….” Maybe 20 minutes out of my life, and then you’re back to being a bad memory. I just felt the need to address what I felt was a dishonest business.
And if by “Obnoxious Busybody”, you mean “being referenced to a ‘scam’ kickstarter by another cartoonist and feeling the need to call them out on taking advantage of ill-informed people rather than stay silent while they rob people of their money”, than I gladly accept that title. At least I’m honest about who I am and my true intentions. How about you, sir?
And if you still can’t understand why myself, or anyone else, would find fault in what you’re doing, I truly feel sorry for you.
Honestly, this took up a little more of my night than it should have. But seeing this level of dishonesty, and THEN to throw it back in my face as if there’s something wrong with ME for even pointing it out, kinda pisses me off. And if I look at this kickstarter any longer I WILL get really mad so this is all I’m going to say about it.
But, yeah. Bruce or Roxy or whoever you are? Here’s a tip: If you’re going to start a scammy digital art business, don’t do it online. That’s where the computer literate live, and they will catch you.
Thank you. Thank you. I know most people really do mean well but i feel like artists are sometimes seen as pets or entertainers. We are people with ( mostly) grown up duties to take care of and lives outside of work ( again, kinda.. haha) …it doesnt mean we dont appreciate when someone has kind words or wants to be our pal.
Be aware of feeling irrationally entitled to another person’s time or trying to control their behavior and think about why you have those feelings. Have you met this person IRL? Are you projecting insecurities or a bad day onto a stranger? Or does not replying really make someone bad and worthy of scorn? I think we all kind of go through this stage in one way or another… but you don’t have to stay stuck like this! :)
Please don’t judge all “popular” artists so quickly, because most will do you the same courtesy.
Artists are human, too, after all.
Had to break my “no reblogs” rule, cause this is something that legitimately stresses me out.
I'll tumblr for ya: I'm not bothering to reblog that whole post floating around because that idiot doesn't need any more attention
I can’t understand why people honestly think It is cool any funny to harass artists in real life for drawing pictures they don’t like on the internet. And the people who get behind it because they don’t like that artist either? You’re just encouraging that type of behaviour and making cons worse…
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Any time I see this kind thing - bigots defending themselves from the “threat” of not being in a position of perceived superiority - it makes me wonder if they’re doing it because they legitimately understand how crappily they treat the targets of their sexism/racism/homophobia/etc, and automatically assume that they will be treated the same way if the tables are turned. If your brain knows no truth other than “bigot”, of course you’re going to assume everyone else thinks the same way.
I don’t see any issue with white people not being the majority in America anymore. Maybe there’s logistical, non-horribly-racist reasons why this would be a problem, but I can NOT see any. So when I see that someone is justifying their homophobic desire to limit the rights of homosexuals in order to protect some race status quo, all I can think is “Wow, dude. So you’re a racist, and in your head you assume that, the second the percentage of white people drops to 49% and below, it’s suddenly gonna be the 1950’s again except you’re the ones on the receiving end of the fire hoses. Because that’s going to happen.”
I would just like to send some reassurance out there, because it seems to me so much is being motivated not by hate, but by pure, unjustified fear….
If you let gay people get married, it doesn’t mean that Adam and Steve are suddenly going to start campaigning to have your marriage rights revoked, or prevent you from visiting your spouse in the hospital, or that it’s ok to get fired from your job or kicked out of the military because of your sexual orientation. If you stand behind women’s unique health issues, women are not going to suddenly revoke your right to testicular cancer screenings, ban Viagra, and declare that if you are sexually assaulted and violated by a huge woman who you have no interest at all in even talking to that it’s your fault and you were asking for it because your pants were a bit too tight. And if you do allow pure white people to drop to less than 50% of the US population, Latinos are not going to start deporting you non-descriminantly, the Japanese are not going to take away your possessions and lock you into work camps because of atrocities people sharing your skin color did in another country, Middle Eastern men and women are not going to demand that your Christian churches harbor violent and war-mongering theologies and demand they get removed for being “offensive”, and Black people are not going to force you to drink at separate drinking fountains.
True, there might be lingering animosity, but it’s never going to get even remotely as bad for you as you made it for them. But if you do get knocked down a peg, maybe you should have thought harder about maybe treating people different than you with respect and dignity. If you had been nicer to your “lessors”, you wouldn’t have to be so afraid of then gaining equal status to you now.
This is NOT about you. This is about them. ”Rights” and “Freedoms” aren’t a pie that has a limited amount of slices. If you give someone else more, it doesn’t mean there’s less for you.
Just a thought.
Just started playing Pathfinder tonight for the first time (it’s basically like a streamlined earlier edition D&D from what I’m told). The character I decided to run is a Dwarven Barbarian named Helga Stonefist, who has the nickname “Horseface” from the large iron helm she wears. The helm has a simple T-shaped slit in front for vision, and rising from the top of it is a horse head looking vaguely like this:
12 generations ago, the helm was a gag gift, given to her great, great, great (etc) grandfather purely for a laugh. However, in the years it’s been passed down, this fact has somehow been lost and it’s now become a treasured heirloom in her family, with her being the one who is “honored” to wear it. Of course, it still looks like an old helm with a goofy horse head on top, but don’t you dare tell that to Helga. She gets very angry when you insult her precious family treasure.
The nickname also comes from the fact that her face is rather hideous to look at. When given the choice between looking at her or the horse helm, most sensible people pick the helm.
She also has a large warhammer that she has been using to bash in the heads of bandits and bears (and, as of tonights, zombies and an evil cleric). She has lovingly named it “Diplomacy.” This has unfortunately lead to one or two misunderstandings when she’s been asked to use diplomacy to solve a dispute.
Yeah. I like my dwarf lady. ^_^